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		<title>By: Jason Terry</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26643</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to check out a site dedicated to iphone freelance and contract gigs / jobs - http://www.iphonefreelancers.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to check out a site dedicated to iphone freelance and contract gigs / jobs - <a href="http://www.iphonefreelancers.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.iphonefreelancers.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26610</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The restrictions are there to protect the iPhone user. Yes, I agree, Apple did go a little to far, but Apple wants to keep the iPhone a traditional Apple product. What I mean by that is: Apple wants the iPhone to be unique, mysterious, and wonderful all in one. They want it to be different from anything Microsoft and other companies come up with, and that is exactly what they did. They want their systems to stray away from the norm, which is why they are regulating what you can and can not put into your application. To me, I think its great, that means less virus, and harder to hack. Good job Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The restrictions are there to protect the iPhone user. Yes, I agree, Apple did go a little to far, but Apple wants to keep the iPhone a traditional Apple product. What I mean by that is: Apple wants the iPhone to be unique, mysterious, and wonderful all in one. They want it to be different from anything Microsoft and other companies come up with, and that is exactly what they did. They want their systems to stray away from the norm, which is why they are regulating what you can and can not put into your application. To me, I think its great, that means less virus, and harder to hack. Good job Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Jagadeesh</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26184</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagadeesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice site</p>
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		<title>By: מחשבות, מחשבים, ושאר דברי בלע &#187; Blog Archive &#187; הSDK של IPod touch וIPhone</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26138</link>
		<dc:creator>מחשבות, מחשבים, ושאר דברי בלע &#187; Blog Archive &#187; הSDK של IPod touch וIPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26138</guid>
		<description>[...] וההתרגשות היתה גדולה. עכשיו, כשהאבק שקע קצת, אנשים שמו לב לתנאי הרשיון של ערכת הפיתוח ולהגבלות המגוחכות שצריך להסכים אליהן [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] וההתרגשות היתה גדולה. עכשיו, כשהאבק שקע קצת, אנשים שמו לב לתנאי הרשיון של ערכת הפיתוח ולהגבלות המגוחכות שצריך להסכים אליהן [...]</p>
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		<title>By: zaxzan</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26137</link>
		<dc:creator>zaxzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waaa ... Waaa ... Waaa - Someone call the Waaambulance! We have an emo-gency!

Zac Bowling you tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waaa &#8230; Waaa &#8230; Waaa - Someone call the Waaambulance! We have an emo-gency!</p>
<p>Zac Bowling you tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Pic.Micro</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26131</link>
		<dc:creator>Pic.Micro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26131</guid>
		<description>Long live openmoko phone. It's open 

www.openmoko.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long live openmoko phone. It&#8217;s open </p>
<p><a href="http://www.openmoko.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.openmoko.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Google says Android Will Outsell the iPhone &#124; Android Phone Fans</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26129</link>
		<dc:creator>Google says Android Will Outsell the iPhone &#124; Android Phone Fans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The iPhone SDK has received mostly praise, excitement and glowing reviews but it should be pointed out that there are some real skeptics who haven&#8217;t been as kind in their criticism as Rich Miner. Zac Bowling for example called the iPhone SDK a joke. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The iPhone SDK has received mostly praise, excitement and glowing reviews but it should be pointed out that there are some real skeptics who haven&#8217;t been as kind in their criticism as Rich Miner. Zac Bowling for example called the iPhone SDK a joke. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-03-18 &#124; Technovia</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26128</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-03-18 &#124; Technovia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zac Bowling’s Blog » Blog Archive » iPhone developer program is a joke Zac Bowling things the iPhone SDK is full of epic fail. (tags: Apple iphone opensource programming sdk) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zac Bowling’s Blog » Blog Archive » iPhone developer program is a joke Zac Bowling things the iPhone SDK is full of epic fail. (tags: Apple iphone opensource programming sdk) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;SDK-overeenkomst is een grap&#8217; &#187; Nieuws &#187; iPhoneclub.nl</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26127</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8216;SDK-overeenkomst is een grap&#8217; &#187; Nieuws &#187; iPhoneclub.nl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Meer info: iPhone Developer Program is a Joke [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-03-18 :: Move the Markets :: Entries ::</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26125</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-03-18 :: Move the Markets :: Entries ::</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] iPhone developer program is a joke (tags: iphone sdk) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] iPhone developer program is a joke (tags: iphone sdk) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel (Palluxo! Editor)</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26123</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel (Palluxo! Editor)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zak, I hate to say it, but Google's Android remains the only trully open mobile project for developers wordwide. There is just too many restrictions that Apple places on iPhone SDK.

Daniel
http://www.palluxo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zak, I hate to say it, but Google&#8217;s Android remains the only trully open mobile project for developers wordwide. There is just too many restrictions that Apple places on iPhone SDK.</p>
<p>Daniel<br />
<a href="http://www.palluxo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.palluxo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: iPhone SDK: Awesome or Dead On Arrival? at Brian Berliner&#8217;s Brain</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26121</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone SDK: Awesome or Dead On Arrival? at Brian Berliner&#8217;s Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yeah, sure. There are plenty of things not to like about this first version of the iPhone SDK, and many have already ripped the failings to shred: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yeah, sure. There are plenty of things not to like about this first version of the iPhone SDK, and many have already ripped the failings to shred: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone Developer Program - not so great?</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26120</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone Developer Program - not so great?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Zac Bowling the iPhone developer program, who many are being turned away from, isn&#8217;t all we would have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to Zac Bowling the iPhone developer program, who many are being turned away from, isn&#8217;t all we would have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Koon</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26119</link>
		<dc:creator>Koon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Zac's perspective it is easy to criticize Apple's current strategy regarding the iPhone SDK. As an OpenSource developer your focus is not on your customers or your company's ROI. Instead, you implement things which are technologically possible and sometimes you just follow your personal preferences. 

However, as a SW professional who is earning his money by listening to his customers and not just the geeks in his team, I would recommend that you think about functional _and_ non-functional requirements of a portable device like the iPhone. Perhaps you'll get the clue that security, privacy and stability concerns outweigh flashy API functionality. Apple provides a compromise, no more, no less. Perhaps the future will provide you more 3rd party power, but I think starting out moderately is better than taking a huge risk - for the company and (surprise!) its customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Zac&#8217;s perspective it is easy to criticize Apple&#8217;s current strategy regarding the iPhone SDK. As an OpenSource developer your focus is not on your customers or your company&#8217;s ROI. Instead, you implement things which are technologically possible and sometimes you just follow your personal preferences. </p>
<p>However, as a SW professional who is earning his money by listening to his customers and not just the geeks in his team, I would recommend that you think about functional _and_ non-functional requirements of a portable device like the iPhone. Perhaps you&#8217;ll get the clue that security, privacy and stability concerns outweigh flashy API functionality. Apple provides a compromise, no more, no less. Perhaps the future will provide you more 3rd party power, but I think starting out moderately is better than taking a huge risk - for the company and (surprise!) its customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Betteridge</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26116</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Betteridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are strong reasons to doubt that 28% market share in the US figure. Canalys produced an *estimate* of market share, which put the iPhone at 27% for "converged devices". This got picked up and instantly reported as fact virtually everywhere.

Only one problem: it doesn't seem to be backed up by actual figures. AdMob's Mobile Metrics Report, which measures the market share of smartphones by browser-type requests on its ad network, shows the iPhone with 2.8% of the market, well behind Motorola (24%), RIM (16%), Nokia (14%) and Samsung (12%). In terms of model, the iPhone is a creditable seventh. Even allowing for a decent margin of error, that's a long way off 28%.

You can download AdMob Metrics reports here - http://www.admob.com/s/solutions/metrics. It includes sections on the methodology, if you want to dig deeper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are strong reasons to doubt that 28% market share in the US figure. Canalys produced an *estimate* of market share, which put the iPhone at 27% for &#8220;converged devices&#8221;. This got picked up and instantly reported as fact virtually everywhere.</p>
<p>Only one problem: it doesn&#8217;t seem to be backed up by actual figures. AdMob&#8217;s Mobile Metrics Report, which measures the market share of smartphones by browser-type requests on its ad network, shows the iPhone with 2.8% of the market, well behind Motorola (24%), RIM (16%), Nokia (14%) and Samsung (12%). In terms of model, the iPhone is a creditable seventh. Even allowing for a decent margin of error, that&#8217;s a long way off 28%.</p>
<p>You can download AdMob Metrics reports here - <a href="http://www.admob.com/s/solutions/metrics" rel="nofollow">http://www.admob.com/s/solutions/metrics</a>. It includes sections on the methodology, if you want to dig deeper.</p>
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		<title>By: Mono people think that the iPhone SDK is a joke. Duh, I already figured that out. &#171; The Secret Diary of Linus Torvalds</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26115</link>
		<dc:creator>Mono people think that the iPhone SDK is a joke. Duh, I already figured that out. &#171; The Secret Diary of Linus Torvalds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I already figured that&#160;out. Filed under: Empire &#8212; Fake Linus Torvalds @ 2:41 pm   See here. The Mono people are a little slow sometimes (duh, they&#8217;re trying to run .Net on Linux), but [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I already figured that&nbsp;out. Filed under: Empire &#8212; Fake Linus Torvalds @ 2:41 pm   See here. The Mono people are a little slow sometimes (duh, they&#8217;re trying to run .Net on Linux), but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Almost, Not Yet</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26114</link>
		<dc:creator>Almost, Not Yet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Follow up: iPhone NOT a Threat to RIM...&lt;/strong&gt;

Earlier today I posted an article that talked about why the iPhone, with its new enterprise features and development kit, was not a threat to Research In Motion and their BlackBerry devices.  You can read the article entitled, iPhone NOT a Threat to R...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Follow up: iPhone NOT a Threat to RIM&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Earlier today I posted an article that talked about why the iPhone, with its new enterprise features and development kit, was not a threat to Research In Motion and their BlackBerry devices.  You can read the article entitled, iPhone NOT a Threat to R&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26113</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, where RIM and Windows Mobile have failed is the mobile paradigm. 

Fundamentally, RIM and Windows Mobile have basically taken the desktop model and used it in a mobile device. There's menus, you use a stylus to get the accuracy of a mouse, there's scrollbars. And you know, it's worked great for them so far, so why stop?

But on the flip-side, why do we need another RIM or Windows Mobile? There's already plenty of companies emulating them, the marketplace for a mobile device masquerading as a desktop computer is saturated. Apple is going a different way. Minimalism, no menus, no scrollbar, multi-touch.

And you know, coming from 0 to 28% marketshare in the US in 8 months, Apple is doing just dandy if you ask me.

Talk of a "public outcry" is empty. All I see is a vocal minority of "jailbreak" hackers who predict a triumphant surge in the unofficial jailbreak method. 

Personally, my money is on Apple. I didn't see EA, Sega and AOL lined up to write unofficial applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, where RIM and Windows Mobile have failed is the mobile paradigm. </p>
<p>Fundamentally, RIM and Windows Mobile have basically taken the desktop model and used it in a mobile device. There&#8217;s menus, you use a stylus to get the accuracy of a mouse, there&#8217;s scrollbars. And you know, it&#8217;s worked great for them so far, so why stop?</p>
<p>But on the flip-side, why do we need another RIM or Windows Mobile? There&#8217;s already plenty of companies emulating them, the marketplace for a mobile device masquerading as a desktop computer is saturated. Apple is going a different way. Minimalism, no menus, no scrollbar, multi-touch.</p>
<p>And you know, coming from 0 to 28% marketshare in the US in 8 months, Apple is doing just dandy if you ask me.</p>
<p>Talk of a &#8220;public outcry&#8221; is empty. All I see is a vocal minority of &#8220;jailbreak&#8221; hackers who predict a triumphant surge in the unofficial jailbreak method. </p>
<p>Personally, my money is on Apple. I didn&#8217;t see EA, Sega and AOL lined up to write unofficial applications.</p>
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		<title>By: If the iPhone SDK is a &#8220;joke&#8221;, Apple will be laughing all the way to the bank &#187; VentureBeat</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26112</link>
		<dc:creator>If the iPhone SDK is a &#8220;joke&#8221;, Apple will be laughing all the way to the bank &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ago (our coverage), the detractors are now coming out and calling the SDK  &#8220;a joke&#8221;, as Zac Bowling did over the weekend. Well, if it is a joke, it may very well be on those developers who decide not to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ago (our coverage), the detractors are now coming out and calling the SDK  &#8220;a joke&#8221;, as Zac Bowling did over the weekend. Well, if it is a joke, it may very well be on those developers who decide not to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lessons from the iPhone SDK: There&#8217;s a Right Way and a Wrong Way for Platform Owners to Engage With Developer Communities</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26111</link>
		<dc:creator>Lessons from the iPhone SDK: There&#8217;s a Right Way and a Wrong Way for Platform Owners to Engage With Developer Communities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] developers who have made it into the beta program are reporting that the shallow integration leaves next to no opportunity to build anything [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] developers who have made it into the beta program are reporting that the shallow integration leaves next to no opportunity to build anything [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26110</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What has happened is that Apple SPOILED critics like you with an insanely great 1.0 device.  This is not a fully-cooked platform.  

The hardware is a blend of compromises based on build cost(s), in such a way as to currently limit what can be done in order to ensure a baseline performance level.  

The point is that the limitations, many of them, are TEMPORARY.  Get on board now because Apple will enhance developers' options as the phone is similarly enhanced.  Walk away now if you wish, but my money's on the iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has happened is that Apple SPOILED critics like you with an insanely great 1.0 device.  This is not a fully-cooked platform.  </p>
<p>The hardware is a blend of compromises based on build cost(s), in such a way as to currently limit what can be done in order to ensure a baseline performance level.  </p>
<p>The point is that the limitations, many of them, are TEMPORARY.  Get on board now because Apple will enhance developers&#8217; options as the phone is similarly enhanced.  Walk away now if you wish, but my money&#8217;s on the iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: .: GAFNO.com - Hot World News Blog :. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The iPhone SDK agreement is a &#8216;giant joke&#8217;&#8230;on several levels</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26109</link>
		<dc:creator>.: GAFNO.com - Hot World News Blog :. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The iPhone SDK agreement is a &#8216;giant joke&#8217;&#8230;on several levels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zac Bowling (of Mono fame) is not a huge fan of Apple&#8217;s new iPhone SDK. He&#8217;s not even a little fan of it. Indeed, he&#8217;s no fan at all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zac Bowling (of Mono fame) is not a huge fan of Apple&#8217;s new iPhone SDK. He&#8217;s not even a little fan of it. Indeed, he&#8217;s no fan at all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Elias</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26108</link>
		<dc:creator>Elias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not surprised by the SDK and its limitations, Apple always played like that and sacrifices diversity for stability. You'll install what we tell you and there will be no problems. That seems to work to a certain crowd that does share Apple's philosophies (making product releases sound more like religious experiences). What ticks me off is how they make a huge hype around the Jesusphone and then when asked to perform miracles as they should, they step down and claim they're just a mobile phone like all the rest. iPhone SDK is fine for games now but doesn't look like it will replace your PDA or laptop soon because it can't. It's a nice looking toy marketed as a do all machine from the future. No more Kool Aid for me, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised by the SDK and its limitations, Apple always played like that and sacrifices diversity for stability. You&#8217;ll install what we tell you and there will be no problems. That seems to work to a certain crowd that does share Apple&#8217;s philosophies (making product releases sound more like religious experiences). What ticks me off is how they make a huge hype around the Jesusphone and then when asked to perform miracles as they should, they step down and claim they&#8217;re just a mobile phone like all the rest. iPhone SDK is fine for games now but doesn&#8217;t look like it will replace your PDA or laptop soon because it can&#8217;t. It&#8217;s a nice looking toy marketed as a do all machine from the future. No more Kool Aid for me, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Betteridge</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26105</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Betteridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26105</guid>
		<description>The radio is by not the component which drains the most power in an iPhone. That large, bright screen uses far more. So does the WiFi - you know, the WiFi which, by default, Apple turns on and constantly polling for routers. And a 600+ MHz processor isn't likely to be a frugal drain on the battery, either. 

The point is that Jobs was doing one of his standard pieces of flummery when he talked about the power drain being the biggest reason for not having 3G on the phone. Simply turning off WiFi polling will save you far more battery power than you'd lose by having 3G rather than EDGE. 

What it comes down to is cost: EDGE radios are much, much cheaper than a good quality 3G equivalent. And that's a perfectly reasonable choice for Apple to make. But Jobs' spin cycle doesn't allow him to say "we did it so you can actually afford this puppy" - instead he has to pull the wool over people's eyes and claim it's a usability issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The radio is by not the component which drains the most power in an iPhone. That large, bright screen uses far more. So does the WiFi - you know, the WiFi which, by default, Apple turns on and constantly polling for routers. And a 600+ MHz processor isn&#8217;t likely to be a frugal drain on the battery, either. </p>
<p>The point is that Jobs was doing one of his standard pieces of flummery when he talked about the power drain being the biggest reason for not having 3G on the phone. Simply turning off WiFi polling will save you far more battery power than you&#8217;d lose by having 3G rather than EDGE. </p>
<p>What it comes down to is cost: EDGE radios are much, much cheaper than a good quality 3G equivalent. And that&#8217;s a perfectly reasonable choice for Apple to make. But Jobs&#8217; spin cycle doesn&#8217;t allow him to say &#8220;we did it so you can actually afford this puppy&#8221; - instead he has to pull the wool over people&#8217;s eyes and claim it&#8217;s a usability issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J.</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26104</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26104</guid>
		<description>Has anyone considered that the terms may change in the future? All this bellyaching about a pre-1.0 sdk. Perhaps v2.0 will have what you want. Meanwhile, maybe take a read at http://furbo.org/2008/03/16/brain-surgeons/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone considered that the terms may change in the future? All this bellyaching about a pre-1.0 sdk. Perhaps v2.0 will have what you want. Meanwhile, maybe take a read at <a href="http://furbo.org/2008/03/16/brain-surgeons/" rel="nofollow">http://furbo.org/2008/03/16/brain-surgeons/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Huston</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26103</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Huston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26103</guid>
		<description>It's a phone, not a computer.  Apple's looking out for their end-user with all of these restrictions and really, none of them are that bad.  The only one that anyone might notice is the suspension of a program when another is moved to the foreground.  Do you really need to receive IMs on your phone while trying to talk to someone?  I think you're looking for the iPhone to replace your laptop and that's just not what it's meant to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a phone, not a computer.  Apple&#8217;s looking out for their end-user with all of these restrictions and really, none of them are that bad.  The only one that anyone might notice is the suspension of a program when another is moved to the foreground.  Do you really need to receive IMs on your phone while trying to talk to someone?  I think you&#8217;re looking for the iPhone to replace your laptop and that&#8217;s just not what it&#8217;s meant to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26102</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26102</guid>
		<description>A) if the iPhone doesn't do what you want, then don't develop for it. If you've got the killer, groundbreaking app-well as mentioned there is a much bigger marketshare on other platforms. If you don't and think that the only way to do anything groundbreaking on the iPhone-well then you've drunk Apple's kool-aid. 

B) this is also release one of the SDK and License. Things may open up in the next year (or not). But revision one is already a big step. The tools that are provided (the SDK) is pretty robust. The license has some oddities to be sure, but some of those do make sense from a toe in the water point of view. Heck, I think the executable code issue doesn't make any sense from a technical standpoint, but it does from a stability standpoint. 

C) this is version one of the phone. Its quite likely that the next edition may have more RAM, or possibly some other tools to better enable multitasking-Apple surely wouldn't want AppA's background process taking up resources needed by AppB. This current restriction means that everyone can be pretty sure that there app will run exactly as tested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A) if the iPhone doesn&#8217;t do what you want, then don&#8217;t develop for it. If you&#8217;ve got the killer, groundbreaking app-well as mentioned there is a much bigger marketshare on other platforms. If you don&#8217;t and think that the only way to do anything groundbreaking on the iPhone-well then you&#8217;ve drunk Apple&#8217;s kool-aid. </p>
<p>B) this is also release one of the SDK and License. Things may open up in the next year (or not). But revision one is already a big step. The tools that are provided (the SDK) is pretty robust. The license has some oddities to be sure, but some of those do make sense from a toe in the water point of view. Heck, I think the executable code issue doesn&#8217;t make any sense from a technical standpoint, but it does from a stability standpoint. </p>
<p>C) this is version one of the phone. Its quite likely that the next edition may have more RAM, or possibly some other tools to better enable multitasking-Apple surely wouldn&#8217;t want AppA&#8217;s background process taking up resources needed by AppB. This current restriction means that everyone can be pretty sure that there app will run exactly as tested.</p>
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		<title>By: robbie</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26101</link>
		<dc:creator>robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris, 

I wonder why the other vendors of telephones don't have this problem???

And I sincerely hope that the next radio that will be in the iPhone will be at least a 3G radio (3.5 is preferred)

I for one think that the biggest drawback is that it's not possible to have programs running in the background. Not only for IM etc. but also for location based services etc. I don't expect to be able to run a webserver of the phone, or use the phone as an accesspoint, but I expect to be able to push stuff to the background when i want to/need to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, </p>
<p>I wonder why the other vendors of telephones don&#8217;t have this problem???</p>
<p>And I sincerely hope that the next radio that will be in the iPhone will be at least a 3G radio (3.5 is preferred)</p>
<p>I for one think that the biggest drawback is that it&#8217;s not possible to have programs running in the background. Not only for IM etc. but also for location based services etc. I don&#8217;t expect to be able to run a webserver of the phone, or use the phone as an accesspoint, but I expect to be able to push stuff to the background when i want to/need to.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Lockley</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26099</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Lockley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26099</guid>
		<description>What do you expect? Apple dropped the "computer" from their name because all they make is appliances now. 

The only tools they are good at creating are the consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you expect? Apple dropped the &#8220;computer&#8221; from their name because all they make is appliances now. </p>
<p>The only tools they are good at creating are the consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26097</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26097</guid>
		<description>Zac, and the rest of the "This Sucks" crowd,

To you it may be completely OK to drain your iPhone battery in 3 hours to have your IM or IRC client running in the background checking every 5 minutes for a new message. It might be completely OK that other applications would want the exact same privilege. And that's because you're application developers and you only see it from your point of view.

But what about Johnny Knowsnothing that installs the app from The App Store and finds that his iPhone battery suddenly sucks? Do they understand the state of application development enough to blame you, the application designer? I don't think so. They blame Apple. They cry out that their battery life sucks and demand Apple fixes the issue. Apple starts replacing batteries that don't need replacing and that increases cost. All because you didn't understand that the iPhone isn't a desktop and requires a different approach to your application design. 

I believe that eventually some of these issues may be cleared up with better radio technologies for EDGE and WiFi but right now I'd much rather have an 8-hour battery life than IM running in the background.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zac, and the rest of the &#8220;This Sucks&#8221; crowd,</p>
<p>To you it may be completely OK to drain your iPhone battery in 3 hours to have your IM or IRC client running in the background checking every 5 minutes for a new message. It might be completely OK that other applications would want the exact same privilege. And that&#8217;s because you&#8217;re application developers and you only see it from your point of view.</p>
<p>But what about Johnny Knowsnothing that installs the app from The App Store and finds that his iPhone battery suddenly sucks? Do they understand the state of application development enough to blame you, the application designer? I don&#8217;t think so. They blame Apple. They cry out that their battery life sucks and demand Apple fixes the issue. Apple starts replacing batteries that don&#8217;t need replacing and that increases cost. All because you didn&#8217;t understand that the iPhone isn&#8217;t a desktop and requires a different approach to your application design. </p>
<p>I believe that eventually some of these issues may be cleared up with better radio technologies for EDGE and WiFi but right now I&#8217;d much rather have an 8-hour battery life than IM running in the background.</p>
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		<title>By: All That’s Wrong With iPhone SDK &#124; Code4DotNet</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26096</link>
		<dc:creator>All That’s Wrong With iPhone SDK &#124; Code4DotNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26096</guid>
		<description>[...] Zac Bowling does a nice little overview of all the things that are wrong with iPhone’s SDK. In a nutshell, the rules imposed on developers are way too strict; abiding all of them would mean that pretty much any interesting or groundbreaking application is out of the question.    Things like “apps can’t run in the background” and “no full file system access” sting the most; all in all, there’s a lot of stop signs all over and developers won’t be too happy about it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zac Bowling does a nice little overview of all the things that are wrong with iPhone’s SDK. In a nutshell, the rules imposed on developers are way too strict; abiding all of them would mean that pretty much any interesting or groundbreaking application is out of the question.    Things like “apps can’t run in the background” and “no full file system access” sting the most; all in all, there’s a lot of stop signs all over and developers won’t be too happy about it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Betteridge</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26095</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Betteridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26095</guid>
		<description>Chris B: "They are all “wonderful” and selling really well because they are so open."

BlackBerry, Windows Mobile and S60 are both still outselling Apple. Your point is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris B: &#8220;They are all “wonderful” and selling really well because they are so open.&#8221;</p>
<p>BlackBerry, Windows Mobile and S60 are both still outselling Apple. Your point is?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Betteridge</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26094</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Betteridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26094</guid>
		<description>Carsten, so is a Windows Mobile phone. So is a BlackBerry. Or an S60 phone. All those phones seem to manage pretty well. I bet you believed Jobs when he claimed that they couldn't initially allow developers on to the iPhone at all because they might bring down the phone network, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carsten, so is a Windows Mobile phone. So is a BlackBerry. Or an S60 phone. All those phones seem to manage pretty well. I bet you believed Jobs when he claimed that they couldn&#8217;t initially allow developers on to the iPhone at all because they might bring down the phone network, too?</p>
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		<title>By: chris b</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26093</link>
		<dc:creator>chris b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the apple SDK suck so hard then go to one of the "open" platforms. Quit complaining and just write for Android, Nokia/symbian, Win Mobile, or the new Blackberry SDK(LOL). They are all "wonderful" and selling really well because they are so open. The IM on those other phones is awesome and Flash works great, so is the market for software on those other phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the apple SDK suck so hard then go to one of the &#8220;open&#8221; platforms. Quit complaining and just write for Android, Nokia/symbian, Win Mobile, or the new Blackberry SDK(LOL). They are all &#8220;wonderful&#8221; and selling really well because they are so open. The IM on those other phones is awesome and Flash works great, so is the market for software on those other phones.</p>
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		<title>By: All That&#8217;s Wrong With iPhone SDK</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26092</link>
		<dc:creator>All That&#8217;s Wrong With iPhone SDK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26092</guid>
		<description>[...] Zac Bowling does a nice little overview of all the things that are wrong with iPhone&#8217;s SDK. In a nutshell, the rules imposed on developers are way too strict; abiding all of them would mean that pretty much any interesting or groundbreaking application is out of the question. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zac Bowling does a nice little overview of all the things that are wrong with iPhone&#8217;s SDK. In a nutshell, the rules imposed on developers are way too strict; abiding all of them would mean that pretty much any interesting or groundbreaking application is out of the question. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carsten Kuckuk</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26088</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Kuckuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26088</guid>
		<description>The iPhone is a device that is always on and always connected to the Internet. If it gets hacked that that's a major nightmare for everybody. The "no-background app" requirement is there in order to save power, which is ok for a cell phone. The "no-plugin, no interpreted language" requirement is there to make malware infection hard. The isolation requirements are there to allow other software to evolve /upgrade without taking other sw into account, which is an absolute must at this stage. For end-customers, the iPhone's promise is to be a reliable, easy-to-use device that comes without built-in advertisement ("branding") and just works. The list of SDK requirements is there, to ensure this to the extent possible, even when 3rd party sw gets installed. As an applications developer with 25+ years of computer experience under the belt, I find this a very reasonable approach that Apple's taking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iPhone is a device that is always on and always connected to the Internet. If it gets hacked that that&#8217;s a major nightmare for everybody. The &#8220;no-background app&#8221; requirement is there in order to save power, which is ok for a cell phone. The &#8220;no-plugin, no interpreted language&#8221; requirement is there to make malware infection hard. The isolation requirements are there to allow other software to evolve /upgrade without taking other sw into account, which is an absolute must at this stage. For end-customers, the iPhone&#8217;s promise is to be a reliable, easy-to-use device that comes without built-in advertisement (&#8221;branding&#8221;) and just works. The list of SDK requirements is there, to ensure this to the extent possible, even when 3rd party sw gets installed. As an applications developer with 25+ years of computer experience under the belt, I find this a very reasonable approach that Apple&#8217;s taking.</p>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; links for 2008-03-16</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26087</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; links for 2008-03-16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26087</guid>
		<description>[...] Zac Bowling’s Blog » Blog Archive » iPhone developer program is a joke one of the Mono guys is&#8230;less than fired up about the iPhone SDK (tags: mono opensource iphone apple sdk) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zac Bowling’s Blog » Blog Archive » iPhone developer program is a joke one of the Mono guys is&#8230;less than fired up about the iPhone SDK (tags: mono opensource iphone apple sdk) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julio</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26085</link>
		<dc:creator>Julio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26085</guid>
		<description>The current iPhone SDK Beta is much better than having nothing at all. Also, I can understand all the restrictions Apple is applying. People too often forget that software/hardware companies exist to do business, not to make opensource hackers happy.

I, for one, don't care about the SDK restrictions, and I also like the business model (the iTunes app store, the 70-30 revenue split etc..). For me, as a game developer, it's just great.

Heck, I don't even know why you care about the iPhone SDK, as it's coming from the "evil" maker of expensive entertainment gear Apple. You already have the FOSS-friendly but-still-not-a-phone Nokia N800.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current iPhone SDK Beta is much better than having nothing at all. Also, I can understand all the restrictions Apple is applying. People too often forget that software/hardware companies exist to do business, not to make opensource hackers happy.</p>
<p>I, for one, don&#8217;t care about the SDK restrictions, and I also like the business model (the iTunes app store, the 70-30 revenue split etc..). For me, as a game developer, it&#8217;s just great.</p>
<p>Heck, I don&#8217;t even know why you care about the iPhone SDK, as it&#8217;s coming from the &#8220;evil&#8221; maker of expensive entertainment gear Apple. You already have the FOSS-friendly but-still-not-a-phone Nokia N800.</p>
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		<title>By: Gino</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26084</link>
		<dc:creator>Gino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nether.

Lets see all of these restrictions you speak of. Specifically how they are worse then the iPhone ones.  I'll be here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nether.</p>
<p>Lets see all of these restrictions you speak of. Specifically how they are worse then the iPhone ones.  I&#8217;ll be here.</p>
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		<title>By: Nether</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26082</link>
		<dc:creator>Nether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gino
"The difference is that none of these restrictions exist on any Microsoft or Mono platform."

Of course they exist. Not only that. Most are hiding away from you until is too late. Microsoft made a business out of this. You can't possibly be this naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gino<br />
&#8220;The difference is that none of these restrictions exist on any Microsoft or Mono platform.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course they exist. Not only that. Most are hiding away from you until is too late. Microsoft made a business out of this. You can&#8217;t possibly be this naive.</p>
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		<title>By: Gino</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26081</link>
		<dc:creator>Gino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nather.  "Why is Apple so different from Microsoft?"  The difference is that none of these restrictions exist on any Microsoft or Mono platform I've ever developed on.  I too also had high hopes for the iPhone... such a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nather.  &#8220;Why is Apple so different from Microsoft?&#8221;  The difference is that none of these restrictions exist on any Microsoft or Mono platform I&#8217;ve ever developed on.  I too also had high hopes for the iPhone&#8230; such a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Nether</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26080</link>
		<dc:creator>Nether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cry me a river. Apple doesn't you to play with their toys and is being upfront about it.

You, mono guys, don't waste any opportunity to take a shot at Apple. Why is that? Why is Apple so different from Microsoft?

iPhone's SDK is no more a joke than your "mono is free and open source and free from patents, all hail Microsoft" crap.

Those that have glass houses don't trow stones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cry me a river. Apple doesn&#8217;t you to play with their toys and is being upfront about it.</p>
<p>You, mono guys, don&#8217;t waste any opportunity to take a shot at Apple. Why is that? Why is Apple so different from Microsoft?</p>
<p>iPhone&#8217;s SDK is no more a joke than your &#8220;mono is free and open source and free from patents, all hail Microsoft&#8221; crap.</p>
<p>Those that have glass houses don&#8217;t trow stones.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26079</link>
		<dc:creator>tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys can cry all you want.   You'll get some tissue.  The rest of us will get a stable phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys can cry all you want.   You&#8217;ll get some tissue.  The rest of us will get a stable phone.</p>
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		<title>By: TimothyP</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26078</link>
		<dc:creator>TimothyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26078</guid>
		<description>And to make matters even worse:
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-rejection-letter-mass-mailing/

Apple is mass rejecting developers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to make matters even worse:<br />
<a href="http://www.tuaw.com/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-rejection-letter-mass-mailing/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tuaw.com/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-rejection-letter-mass-mailing/</a></p>
<p>Apple is mass rejecting developers</p>
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		<title>By: TimothyP</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26077</link>
		<dc:creator>TimothyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't even dig that deep before putting the SDK aside.
(http://www.itcrowd.be/entry/iPhone+SDK+-+The+short+honeymoon.aspx)
But your post shows how bad it really is. It's just downright scary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t even dig that deep before putting the SDK aside.<br />
(http://www.itcrowd.be/entry/iPhone+SDK+-+The+short+honeymoon.aspx)<br />
But your post shows how bad it really is. It&#8217;s just downright scary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26073</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/iphone-developer-program-is-a-joke/#comment-26073</guid>
		<description>"“If Your Application includes any FOSS, You agree to comply with all applicable FOSS licensing terms. You also agree not to use any FOSS in the development of Your Application in such a way that would cause the non-FOSS portions of the SDK to be subject to any FOSS licensing terms or obligations.” (section 3.3.14 in the SDK license agreement)"

It is impossible for anybody outside Apple to cause the iPhone API to fall under FOSS licensing terms, no matter what they do or what open source software they use in the construction of an iPhone application.

What I can't figure out is whether Apple's lawyers really are this stupid, or whether they are simply trying to spread FUD about FOSS as part of their own license.

Either way, the iPhone SDK is useless.  If Apple had opened things up, I might have broken down and bought an iPhone, but not with this kind of idiotic policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“If Your Application includes any FOSS, You agree to comply with all applicable FOSS licensing terms. You also agree not to use any FOSS in the development of Your Application in such a way that would cause the non-FOSS portions of the SDK to be subject to any FOSS licensing terms or obligations.” (section 3.3.14 in the SDK license agreement)&#8221;</p>
<p>It is impossible for anybody outside Apple to cause the iPhone API to fall under FOSS licensing terms, no matter what they do or what open source software they use in the construction of an iPhone application.</p>
<p>What I can&#8217;t figure out is whether Apple&#8217;s lawyers really are this stupid, or whether they are simply trying to spread FUD about FOSS as part of their own license.</p>
<p>Either way, the iPhone SDK is useless.  If Apple had opened things up, I might have broken down and bought an iPhone, but not with this kind of idiotic policy.</p>
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